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Dear Curious and others, especially alcohol drinkers, depression/bipolar sufferers and chronic sinus infection sufferers, I have a fantastic success story of a friend of mine I've known for 47 years, since we were 11 years old. He's physically and mentally been an absolute wreck his whole life. He's had a chronic sinus infection which swells up his head and turns it red and plugs up his ears and gives him painful sinus pressure in his eyes and head - non-stop since we were kids. Had the worst acne as a kid you ever saw, to boot. It even effected his hearing. He also had chronic gout infections in his feet his whole life, making it impossible for him to walk at times due to the pain. It's been this way for decades for him. He's uses alcohol to medicate his pains and bipolar disorder for 40 years and can drink 30 ounces of vodka in a day. Quite impressive. He's downed almost an entire 1.75 liter bottle on bad days, he said. He has an IQ of 160 which probably made it all worse for him, since he remembers everything in life and can masterfully justify why there was no hope for him and he might as well just keep drinking, else not waking up seems easier. So I suggest everyone reads this who thinks they have no hope....

Today is my lifelong friends 20th day of Protocol C. He's been doing a strict daily fast - no food or coffee until his doses are done each day. He lives in another state but he came to visit me right when I finished my 21 day Protocol C with CDS. I had lost 20 pounds on the protocol and was suddenly doing pushups and pullups daily, lying in the sun daily and had white teeth and no joint pain. Life was good again. He could tell things were different suddenly for me. He was 50 pounds over weight and in pain always like I used to be. While he was visiting, I couldn't stop telling him every 5 minutes how CDS may help with his sinus infection, his alcohol cravings, plus he'd lose weight fasting. To my shock, he actually ordered the chlorine dioxide kit on amazon after 4 days of my non-stop pestering to try it, so I gave him the jars and lids to make CDS and he went home. Once he got home he drank alcohol for 3 weeks straight (to prepare for the cleanse, LOL) because this is how he rolls. I thought he wouldn't do it after all. He finally texted me one morning out of the blue with a pic of a jar full of 30 PPM CDS and said, "is it supposed to be green???" LOL, so the adventure began! He had made his first CDS batch which does look kinda green.

As of today, he's 20 days into Protocol C. He lost 20 pounds, he has white teeth now and pink gums and no gross dark sticky crap on his tongue scraper when he uses it (as usual with CDS, the same thing happened to me) but the amazing news is as follows... he has eliminated for the first time in his life his sinus infection! He can now breathe through his nose and has no sinus, ear or eye pressure! His gout attack on his toes and ankle was gone which he'd had for the last couple weeks AND, the greatest part of all is he just wrote to me this morning and said this: "Today is 3 weeks without a drink. Tomorrow is the last day of the 21 day cleanse. I'm going to continue the doses but not as strict." (meaning he's not going to fast every day with no food until the daily doses are finished.

The first 17 days of his Protocol C, he had a balloon like splitting headache 24/7 (an expected Hex reaction, while CDS was clearing out his chronic sinus infection, plus clearing out his kidneys, liver, gut, viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, all the crap sprayed on our GMO'd food and god knows what else) and it was non-stop day and night, he said. He was convinced it wasn't going to work for him, nothing else ever did in the past he kept saying. All this while his feet hurt him every day from his recent gout attack, to boot. Then finally, over the last 3 days while talking to him, his feet and ankle were fine, his voice changed (no sinus infection and swelling was effecting his voice, which he said was getting better finally and his headache was getting less severe by the day) but I could also tell his attitude was changing as he started to have hope since it finally started to show results for him. His demeanor started to become cheerful and curious about doing new things. He actually drove to the library and got a library card!?!?!? All I can say is how many depressed alcoholics with swollen balloon heads and chronic gout infections do you know that just went and got a library card?

Curious Outlier's avatar

Hi Matt,

That is an awesome testimonial! How old is that guy and how old are you?

Do you mind if I share this in a post?

matt's avatar

Hi Curious, I'm 58 and my friend is 60. You are welcome to share it.

matt's avatar
Sep 24Edited

Hi Guys, I just wanted to give an update on my friend I originally wrote about, above. I initially posted my comment about his incredible experience using chlorine dioxide on August 12th, 2025 when he was 3 weeks into using it daily. Today is September 24th, 2025, so he's about 9 weeks into using it, and 9 weeks into his new life. He's literally a new man on every account. He has still been doing his daily doses of chlorine dioxide using CDS and has no issues with stomach or bowel upset. He takes an average of 6 doses a day now, starting when he first wakes up. He's going to do this routine for a few more months. He feels that his liver, kidneys, cardiovascular system, brain, skin, etc, will continue to benefit from it and he is going to reevaluate it in 6 months when he takes a full blood panel (test) to see where he's at with cholesterol and various other organs' health markers.

Currently he fasts daily each morning (no food/no caffeine/no antioxidants) until about noon while taking his CDS doses, except lately he's been having a protein shake mid morning in between doses because he needs the calories and protein since he's still working out regularly and losing weight and it's depleting him of energy by midmorning. He goes to the gym and does 20 min's of cardio on the bike, then weight training every other day and in between gym days he's starting to go for walks plus some light weight training at home on some of those days. He's losing weight and gaining muscle and his body is looking better each week which has him really motivated. People notice at the gym and comment to him about it. If you could have seen him before he started this whole thing, you wouldn't believe it. His body shape was an egg, with legs. Now he's looking more like a linebacker on his way to a wide receiver. But it's also made him quite tired due to the calorie restriction on top of the regular exercise, hence the mid morning protein shake. Once his doses are done each morning, he eats a regular meal and has a regular day after that. This routine is his top priority above anything else and he really loves it because he sees the results and he's always wanted to do this but never could stick with it before due to joint pain, foot pain, swollen head/sinus problems, brain fog and low mental energy with no will power as a result. Thus, the required daily alcohol which made it all go away while doing multiple sets of “seated rests” and “one arm curls,” 12 ounces at a time. What a difference his new daily life experience is now.

The more he improves, the more he is motivated because he earned every drop of it from sheer will power and determination while going through almost 3 weeks of 24/7 headaches and dizziness, alone at home while detoxing cold turkey. Now he’s come out the other side and is on top of the world and no one needs to tell him not to drink. His new clear head now without brain fog has a lot to do with all his success.

CDS has had the same effect on me in that regard. No brain fog anymore allows me to handle problems efficiently and easily, day or night, without headaches and anxiety which followed and made simple problem solving far more difficult for me. My ADHD made it far worse, which also has improved since taking CDS. I see (now) how solving problems while experiencing brain fog makes alcohol sound so attractive to take the stressful edge off while experiencing the always debilitating mental fog making even the simplest tasks more difficult. the fog gave me a headache and low level anxiety because I’d forget things in my thought process as I’d try to sort things out, or do physical tasks. That’s stressful. I didn’t even realize this cycle was as powerful as it was UNTIL the fog lifted and everything got easier. Now I see this triggering mechanism very clearly for alcohol. There’s no desire for booze when you already feel clear headed and already feel happy in your own skin while solving problems, working, etc. It's just that simple for me now. And no joint pain in the meanwhile sure helps because then you can exercise and enjoy it and see the physical improvement which follows. It’s great to feel good about your body again and the way you look while out and also to have a clear mind to boot. It will happen. It's all a synergistic effect. Health (or lack thereof) is a complete package of actions between diet, exercise, and tools like CDS to clean out your body and brain upfront, to allow the diet and exercise to do their physiological magic within you. In 2 or 3 months there’s a night and day difference mentally and physically. Where were you 3 months ago? 10 swigs a day of CDS, every hour, for 3 weeks, and watch what happens. Reassess your needs from there.

So needless to say, my friend has still not had a single drink of alcohol, his mind is clear as ever, his outlook is fantastic and positive now, his speech patterns are different, he's not a negative thinker any longer like he used to be, full of excuses why he can't change and must just drink the rest of his life. He can still breathe through his nose, his ears are still not clogged, his eyes are still white and not blood shot red like they always were his entire life, his head doesn't feel like a balloon like it used to when he would simply bend over (I had the same problem, not anymore since exercising and doing CDS) and he's even had a very painful 3” recurring boil infection that would swell up repeatedly for years and then repeatedly burst open and drain out and was incredibly painful and always visible as to the location (under his clothes), even when it wasn't swelling up. Now it is completely gone. No visible sign of where it used to be. And no pain at all at the site, he said. He also said his skin and complexion in general looks better overall. This is another reason he feels it is benefiting him to continue with CDS daily.

As far as his oral health, he had a white layer over the top of his tongue go away (a fungal or bacterial overgrowth on it) and tongue scraping now yields basically nothing, whereas before it was a daily thick clump of grossness that would scrape off of it daily. His teeth are whiter now using CDS as a mouth rinse (at 200 PPM, best results are after your last cup of coffee which imparts a small yellow stain each day, CDS takes it right off and is ALKALINE and safe for tooth enamel) and his gums are nice and pink now. I also had the same experience with CDS in all these regards, so did another friend who used it only as a mouth rinse.

So if you're on the fence about trying chlorine dioxide, all you have to do is buy a bottle of CDS premade on amazon to try it first to make it totally simple. Or use the video in this substack to make your own, just check the PPM with test strips as PPM will vary depending on the bottle and lid type you choose. You can try Protocol C for example, which is the general wellness protocol to rid your body of pathogens (viruses, bacteria, fungi and single celled parasites). Then learn what foods and things to avoid when taking CDS during your daily dosage period… and then START IT!! You'll never believe your old life was acceptable until you rid yourself of all those pesky problems, aches and pains you thought you had to live with forever. I had them too. So did my friend. Western medicine may tell you that you are doomed to have “conditions” forever but they want customers for life, else they'd treat you with things that work to cure diseases instead of treating their symptoms. Don't forget that during Prohibition 100 years ago, you could go to your doctor and get a "Medical Alcohol" prescription!! Look it up!?! Imagine a holistic health doctor today giving you a prescription for Medical Alcohol!? The pharma industry would have a field day over what quacks they all were. But now bigpharma gives prescriptions of incredibly dangerous drugs for anxiety like Xanax, Valium, etc, or for pain they give OxyContin while they said it was not addictive while covering it up for over a decade until lawsuits revealed their internal communications covering up the lies. Another fine example of "medicine" designed to create customers for life. These are the same idiots telling you chlorine dioxide is dangerous, just remember that when you read “experts” online telling you how dangerous chlorine dioxide is. Read some Xanax, Valium and Alcohol testimonials and see how well bigpharma has dealt with stress, anxiety and pain in the past with their “medicines” which cure nothing. Then read some chlorine dioxide testimonials and compare the two.

The real science to trust in my opinion, is a prescription for CDS, not a prescription for Alcohol, Xanax, Valium, or a Lobotomy. The Lobotomy procedure made Time Magazines Best Medical Breakthrough Of The Year 100 years ago. Hitler also made the cover of Time Magazine’s Man of the Year. YES. FOR REAL. Man Of The Year around the same time period. Talk about quacks and BS from our "experts." The real medicine is Vitamin D3, sunshine, a healthy diet and some exercise and the REAL Men Of The Year are guys like the creator of this substack!! Remember, Knowledge Is Power only when it is applied. Otherwise, knowledge is simply diluted into more daily words going in one ear and out the other. Be the horse that’s led to water and uses the knowledge of its guide to help itself survive by taking a drink… of CDS!

BarbB's avatar

Thank you for sharing this story Matt. You’re a great friend. It’s wonderful and gives me hope!!!

Daniel's avatar

Matt. Would you give us an update on how things are going in another or two?

matt's avatar

Daniel, so far my friend is on top of the world and feeling better and more clear every day since you first wrote. His outlook and happiness are the best ever he said and the last thing you could ever pay him to do right now is, "have another drink and ruin it and feel like $h*t again." It's really amazing, he doesn't say he "hopes" it works anymore, he says he "knows" it works (CDS) and for so much more than just drinking. He looks forward to life again and can't wait for the next day each day, like he did when he was much younger. He's excited since he knows it's all real and really happening more and more every day as he continues his CDS daily. It's amazing to hear him so happy after always hearing how miserable he was due to the pains and other physical discomforts he always had and not being able to exercise which drinking was the only remedy to relieve it all for him.

I always felt this was going to happen pretty much just like this, maybe not as quickly but I felt it would happen within 2 months because it was so powerful for me in just a few weeks (but I didn't have things as bad as he did). But all my joint pains, anxiety, drink cravings due to joint pain and due to anxiety all left me. My poor attitude due to all of that left me. I kept telling him that. But he really shows how well it works on so many ailments all at once! He always said he was the guy that nothing worked for, I heard him say that a million times.

Andreas Kalcker's avatar

Congratulations on an insightful article about chlorine dioxide! Your thorough exploration of its applications and potential benefits is truly commendable. It's refreshing to see such a well-researched perspective that contributes to the ongoing conversation around innovative treatments. Thank you for your dedication to sharing important information and advancing our understanding of this topic!

james's avatar

I have just begun the C Protocol and am wondering if there is a negative impact of completing the daily drink in 5-6 hours instead of the 10 prescribed (assuming no Herxheimer reaction) or if I need to approach it like I did 16:8 hour fasting? I've also put my step dad on a 10% DMSO spray with the 3000 ppm CDS fine mist for a leg ulcer he's had for over 2 months. Thank you sir.

Curious Outlier's avatar

That is OK. I finish mine in four hours.

james's avatar

Thank you so much!

giovanni forzano's avatar

I discovered reading the article cds could be used for intramuscular injection too.. I have to study more 😇

Robert's avatar

I have been using CDS now for about 5 weeks.

Having been suffering from anxiety (severe at time, sometimes hard to leave the house) for over a decade.

Been on the bs fda shit off and on for years.

Since CDS, I would say 2-3 weeks into it, my anxiety is about 90% GONE !

I started with 3 drops per bottle mixed with 1 liter pure water (mountain valley).

I am now at 5 drops per bottle and my alcohol cravings have subsided drastically.

I have focus, energy and a healthy lack of procrastination.

I Prayed and Prayed for Our Lord's help from numerous self destructive habits.

This is what God sent me.......

Best regards to all !!!!!!!

Curious Outlier's avatar

That's great Robert! Thanks for sharing.

Robert's avatar

Hello Curious, this is what I have been using.

AncientHeart369's avatar

This is SO AWESOME! Congratulations!

I'm wondering about the mechanism of action regarding reducing alcohol cravings. Could it be that the CDS is eliminating the "bugs"-aka fungi, parasites, etc, that are causing the craving?

Kevin-Michael:Smith's avatar

I am so happy for your success Robert !

Though I am curious if you are referring to MMS1 (sodium chloride+acid activator)

I'm just curious, because CDs is generally dosed in mL per liter whereas MMS / MMS1 are dosed by drops 🤔

Robert's avatar

Hello Kevin, this is what I have been using.

Once mixed= Cl02.

Be Concerned's avatar

So you're using it as Chlorine Dioxide, rather than the Chlorine Dioxide Solution. Will have to try this for the anxiety I've dealt with since going off Zoloft. Thanks!

AKgrrrl's avatar

I am so confused. I wanted the nebulizer protocol for sinus and respiratory infection using CDS. This July 28th article instructed to follow this link to watch these two videos which show how to make mms and the daily drink for dosing every hour or so. You are the only commenter who confirmed this was the 2part mixing old style miracle solution. So the 700cc of water in the fridge plastic cup after turned yellow is the same as putting HOW MANY drops of CDS in 700cc of water?

Curious Outlier's avatar

How are you doing? Are you on the mend? Did you figure the nebulizer protocol out? 🙏🏻

AKgrrrl's avatar

I am kicking butt thankyou very much. Yesterday mowed my top acre! Thats not a riding mower btw. By myself 70yrs young. Finished out my day going to a nearby homestead, the owners got stuck in Anchorage with their trailer flat tire. I milked their goats, bottled fed three of the babies, fed the rest hay and feed, fed 7 pyrenees guard dogs, then home to render the best cleanest lard for winter pies! God is Good!

Curious Outlier's avatar

The instructions are in the video at the bottom of the article.

AKgrrrl's avatar

Repeat. The link at the bottom of the article leads to these two videos, how to use/create MMS and how to make a daily bottle of drinking water. That is not instructions on how to use CDS.

Be Concerned's avatar

I honestly don’t know, but I would recommend getting on Telegram & joining this channel, & others related to CDS. https://t.me/joinchat/WTKamcXNaJdQ-ydP

The “owner” of this channel, who is the author of this substack, produced a course on CDS, & a documentary that is very enlightening.

I rarely use the two-part MMS1, which is the same as Chlorine Dioxide — Part A (sodium chlorite) mixed equally with Part B (hydrochloric acid).

I mostly use the CDS, Chlorine Dioxide Solution, made from infusing water with the gas from CD, Chlorine Dioxide. CDS does not directly contain the acid, so is easy on the tummy — is ph neutral.

Developed by Andreas Kalcker, BioPhysicist who has researched MMS/CD for 20 years, after being healed from rheumatoid arthritis from using the MMS/CD.

AKgrrrl's avatar

Thankyou so much for this effort. I already knew all that, I was trying to get Outlier to be more specific as I wanted something specific not links to films. Which he did ( in his gentle attentiveness to our messy requests hah! )

Its just so rare to get such kindness and action from the world these days, you lightened my scepticism today, by being you. Thankyou.

matt's avatar

I too have had ZERO craving for alcohol since I began about 7 days ago.

Curious Outlier's avatar

That's great. What were your alcohol cravings like before starting?

matt's avatar

For me, if I had alcohol at home, I'd usually have a drink or more each day until it was gone. It made me feel less anxious. I wasn't a career daily drinker but I could drink for days if it was around and not drink if it wasn't. Sometimes in the middle of doing home improvement projects though, the anxiety I'd get from the work itself would cause me to leave and get alcohol to drink while completing it. It made the work feel fun finally, whereas before it was almost depressing or anxious to me. Those feelings are definitely gone, I don't have the anxiety needing to be mended by alcohol anymore. My head is just peaceful and I am relaxed at night.

Also now the really weird thing is the thought of drinking reminds me of something toxic to my body and that's it? Whereas before the anxiety would have me think about alcohol in a completely different way, it was something that would have me feel more relaxed and make things fun and enjoyable. I think in part this was because my head was always foggy, it's crystal clear now.

Another benefit I have already BIG TIME is no more pain in my joints, I started doing pullups which I couldn't do before due to elbow pain I'd get. And many other pains have left me as well. I'm fasting for 8 hours a day while dosing and maybe that is part of it. But in general I am really looking forward to eating each day now LOL and for the first day today I have no headache at all and no head swelling (after the 2 days at 100 PPM doses LOL) but also some of that I believe was from coffee withdrawals which today is my 3rd day of no coffee. I have one big cup of tea when I finish the daily dosing with my food.

Thanks again Curious for all your awesome work on CD!! All your videos and documentaries and all education on this substack as you know is literally changing peoples lives.

Rosie Cotton's avatar

Thank you for the continued education!

I have both the books by Kalcker and Humble, but having your current thoughts and opinions lends me more confidence to continue using and researching chlorine dioxide.

May God bless you as you continue to serve Him and do the part He has given you to do.💕

Curious Outlier's avatar

Thank you for your encouraging words. 🙏🏻

Chef C J's avatar

Thank you very much, I am progressively gaining understanding on CD/CDS and DMSO more clearly with each stack read. Your videos here are critical to me as well as your comparison/contraction. Clearly helps me.

Kathryn's avatar

Thank you, and congratulations on the commendation from Andreas Kalker!

matt's avatar

Hi Daniel, will do.

He and I just talked, he said he joined THE GYM today to celebrate his last day of Protocol C!

He said he wants his next protocol to be seamless from the last, continuing with CDS daily, healthy eating, working out, losing more weight and re-joining society.

I wish I wrote about him today instead of yesterday, I could have added the new gym membership along with his new library card, LOL!!

Curious Outlier's avatar

I will add it!

CharleneB's avatar

I really appreciated your post. I have been using CDS for a while now, and I still learned something new today. I also have read 2 different books on the subject and like all new information in our life, new light bulbs are still going on. Isn’t this how life is, I am sure if I figure all things out my journey on earth will be over 💜😀

matt's avatar

Hi Kelly, regarding tooth and gum health, I have a great story for you about the power of 300 PPM solution of CDS used as a mouthwash to kill serious persistent gum infections and also the difference between MMS (drinking the drops, the original method of administration) versus CDS (gas infused water absorption) in terms of their acidity and effects on tooth enamel...

My gingivitis gum pocket infection began 9 years ago, I discovered it (the "gum pocket" as it's called by dentists) when it swelled up to the size of a small pea and caused me to go to the dentist thinking I had mouth cancer or something. The dentist popped the pea sized puss filled infection at my gum line and irrigated it with something nasty to kill the infection. It worked, the pain and infection were gone and I regularly cleaned my teeth at the dentist afterward until 2020 when the pandemic began. I haven't had a cavity since I was 12 (I'm 58 now), so I'm not focused as much as I should be on brushing and flossing, so I ended up with the gum pocket 9 years ago probably as a result which can be treated by brushing, flossing and regular teeth cleanings and using CDS as a mouth rinse (which I only recently discovered CDS).

Since the pandemic, my dentist office closed and then went out of business and I haven't had my teeth cleaned since 2020. As of about 2 years ago I started to have persistent pain more and more in the same original pocket location that landed me in the dentists office 9 years ago, plus it's slowly spread to the adjoining tooth. I wanted to cure the gum infection before going to the dentist to have my teeth cleaned, so he could just focus on cleaning my teeth vs paying for the irrigation treatment of my gums that were infected and then coming back later a second time to clean my teeth. This process of trying to eliminate the gum infection has lasted 2 years! I've treated the 2 pockets with DMSO, Lugol's Iodine, Hydrogen Peroxide and none of them cured the infection. They all helped a little but never eliminated it completely. At one point I had the big swollen pea sized swelling which I popped and treated with Lugol's Iodine to manage the infection since I knew what it was this time. I can't believe I went through all this as I type it out. Anyway, now for the GOOD NEWS...

Once I completed the 21 day CDS treatment (8 doses of CDS a day, 25 PPM, every hour on the hour), I found the pocket infection site was healing up a LOT, but still was not completely pain free - but WAY better results so far than any of the other treatments I'd tried over the last 2 years. This led me to research Dr Klacker's "Protocol J", using CDS in highly concentrated form for mouth rinsing only.

I started Dr Klacker's Protocol J a few days ago. I mixed up a batch of 300 PPM and rinsed my mouth with it for 3 minutes. I did it a few times a day. At the end of rinsing, I brushed my teeth with it while it was still in my mouth. I can attest that my infection is GONE 100% with NO gum sensitivity or pain remaining!! Like I mean none. Done. CDS at 300 PPM gave noticeable pain relief by the end of the FIRST day of use and it also brightens your teeth (noticeably at 300 PPM) WITHOUT damaging your enamel because CDS is not acidic, like MMS is. It is worth noting that if you use MMS (the original method of drinking the drops dispensed in a glass of water) then you are introducing a highly ACIDIC solution into your mouth which is BAD for your enamel, it dissolves the enamel which then allows bacteria to get into your very porous tooth bone which allows for the formation of cavities. I can't tell you how much I think everyone should use this as a mouthwash to prevent gingivitis and tooth decay/cavities.

Be Concerned's avatar

Wow, great testimonial, thanks much for sharing!!

Lindsay Moore's avatar

How do you make 300ppm dose from the 3000ppm solution?

matt's avatar

You take 9 "parts" of water and 1 part of 3,000 PPM solution, which gives 300 PPM.

The "part" size can be any size, like you could use 10mL of 3,000 PPM CDS with 90mL of water and get 100mL's of 300 PPM solution. Each 30 mL equal 1 fluid ounce.

matt's avatar

Lindsay, if 300 PPM mouthwash slightly peels your skin inside of your mouth after using it 3 to 4 times a day, you can make a slightly weaker PPM of 200PPM for the first week by diluting 10mL of CDS 3,000 PPM with 130mL water.

After I used the 200 to 300 PPM mouth rinse for a week while rinsing with it multiple times daily, my mouth felt brand new inside. In just a day or two my teeth were SHADES whiter and gums pink and tongue really clean. 2 friends of mine both experienced whiter teeth very quickly. I used it in total for 3 weeks, 3-4 times a day, at 200 to 300 PPM (rinsing my mouth with it, not swallowing) to fix all the gum sensitivity spots I had. No sensitivity and longer. Now I'm going to use it once a day for preventative maintenance. I suspect you will not be disappointed!

Curious Outlier's avatar

I have seen a couple of instances where, if people have biofilm on their teeth, their teeth can become discolored for a period of time until all the biofilm is gone.

matt's avatar

Wow!? What color did their teeth become while breaking down the biofilms and how long did it last?

BTW, I think a FANTASTIC substack article would be to challenge readers to try the mouth wash protocol for 2 days, to whiten their teeth? Rinsing for 3 minutes, 3-4 times a day gives such noticeably whiter teeth so quickly and painlessly, unlike dental trays that sit in your mouth much longer and burn your gums and degrade your enamel. Plus, they are far more expensive and have a 6 month shelf life before they degrade/expire. Posting before and after pics of their whitening experience's would be great! It could become the most popular and painless mouth whitening system ever!! The best part is CDS is alkaline and has no other ingredients. The oral hygiene products from Frontier Pharmaceuticals contain FOOD DYES and other harmful ingredients and cost about $60 for a 3 month supply of their mouth wash and toothpaste. I bought them, then read the ingredients and returned it all. No need for all those extra harmful ingredients when you can make your own CDS mouth wash dirt cheap. Thanks again my friend!!

Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

"Overall, CDS appeared to be as effective as MMS1. (I have personal opinions on this matter, which I will discuss in a separate post.)"

CDS has never been successful for malaria or autism. It is weaker than MMS. Most people find making it cumbersome and they are intimidated.

Curious Outlier's avatar

I am aware of the reference and I do not trust the reference because I have multiple verifications that MMS1 cures malaria, and that Japanese guy said that it does not. He never told me that he had even worked with CDS. That Japanese guy either lied to me or for some reason, his tests were incorrect because I have seen hundreds of people get cured from malaria with MMS1.

Speeder Speedy's avatar

Perhaps I have some info that could shed some light on your questions. Please PM me. Can't send messages to you unfortunately.

Curious Outlier's avatar

It actually has worked for autism. I interviewed a grandmother with a grandson that reversed autism using CDS. But for sure, I have never seen a malaria testimonial, and I am asking around currently.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Those were two of the most important opinions that I was going to talk about. Particularly the malaria issue.

Speeder Speedy's avatar

What about Kalckers note in his book Forbidden Health?

"p292

Author’s note: There are claims that CDS doesn’t work on malaria; this

is not true. Muturou Ishii (Japan) has been able to confirm its effectiveness in

Africa, using a protocol of 20 ml of CDS in 300 ml of water every hour for three

hours (3 doses, one per hour). The treatment can be repeated the next day."

Speeder Speedy's avatar

Of course. Just wondered if you were aware of his note. I don't use Facebook anymore... not since it degenerated...

Speeder Speedy's avatar

I have more info now. Please contact me. I can't PM you unfortunately.

Mark Luersen's avatar

Great videos! One thing that comes to mind is the surface area of the water (and depth), does it matter? For example, a long tall bottle with a small surface area of water vs a mason jar with a little more width. Would it be better to use a large water container and a small shot glass in the middle of this ocean (since more surface water would be exposed to the gas)? If so, maybe the depth of water should be tiny too? Unless the gas also needs to stretch far and wide (and deep) so this whole idea is moot? Just thinking out loud here...

Curious Outlier's avatar

There are several different methods and container sizes that have been used. The less airspace the better. This message used with the shot glass and the sealed mason jar container utilizes 250 mL of water.

Kelly Holland's avatar

I could use some help figuring out how to dilute 35% hcl to 5%. The citric acid is too harsh fro my friend whose dying from bladder and liver cancer. I need help ASAP please. Thank you for all that you've done to spread the truth!!<3

Curious Outlier's avatar

Watch lesson 6 of the free training course and download the free ultimate guidebook.

https://theuniversalantidote.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/v1.5.1-mob-The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Chlorine-Dioxide.pdf#page60

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Lindsay Moore's avatar

You can buy hydrochloric acid 4% and use it. I started with citric acid but switched when I read some find citric acid hard on the stomach.

matt's avatar

Per Brave browser's AI, to convert 35% HCL to 4% HCL (4% is the standard HCL concentration sold with chlorine Dioxide):

Using distilled water, add 1 ounce of 35% HCL to 9.52 ounces distilled water to get 4% HCL.

Here's the Full AI answer including formula. I substituted 1 OUNCE for AI's example of 1 Liter:

Step-by-Step Calculation:

Let's assume you have 1 liter of 35% HCl solution.

Calculate the amount of HCl in the solution: 35% of 1 liter = 0.35 liters of HCl

Calculate the amount of HCl in grams: Molecular weight of HCl: 36.46 g/mol 0.35 liters * 35% (as a decimal: 0.35) * 36.46 g/mol ≈ 47.13 grams of HCl

Now, you want to dilute the solution to 4% HCl. Let's say you want to make a total solution of 10 liters.

Calculate the amount of HCl in the final solution: 4% of 10 liters = 0.4 liters of HCl

Calculate the amount of HCl in grams: 0.4 liters * 4% (as a decimal: 0.04) * 36.46 g/mol ≈ 6.77 grams of HCl

To achieve the desired concentration, you'll need to add water to the original 47.13 grams of HCl to get a total of 6.77 grams of HCl in 10 liters of solution.

Dilution Formula:

Initial concentration × Initial volume = Final concentration × Final volume

Rearrange the formula to solve for the final volume:

Final volume = (Initial concentration × Initial volume) / Final concentration

Plugging in the values:

Final volume = (35% × 1 liter) / 4% ≈ 9.52 liters

To dilute 35% HCl to 4% HCl, add distilled water to the original solution until you reach a total volume of approximately 9.52 liters.

Kelly Holland's avatar

Tysm for taking the time to type that up for me. I ended up figuring it out from the telegram files and thankful my friend no longer has cancer!

Curious Outlier's avatar

Wow, that's great! How did they end up getting rid of it?

Kelly Holland's avatar

Protocol 2000 and patch protocol. Ive left testomonies for my friend that had end stage breast cancer with mets and then my other friend who had end stage bladder and liver cancer he just worked his way up to 3 drop hourly doses. He never went all the way with the cancer protocol and was able to heal completely with just mms. Then my friend recently was diagnosed with skin cancer and I made cds spray for her and it was gone in two weeks!! Thank you for all the work you do its helping so many people!

gail fitzgerald's avatar

Where can I find the patch protocol?

Tina's avatar

Not sure but I think Kalcker has a specific size of jar and amount of CD to get the 3,000ppm needed to be effective. I’ve also seen on Dr Yoho’s substack where a guest expert (sorry can’t remember her name) said the size of the glass container you store your CDS in does matter as a larger space will “gas off” faster and will lose effectiveness. Store CDS in smaller dark colored glass bottles in the fridge.

Be Concerned's avatar

Andreas Kalcker has said this as well, that when there's space in the jar it will off-gas. That's a good idea, to pour the 1 liter batch into smaller bottles, for drinking every hour (or every 15 min as I sometimes do)...seems like that would keep the batch more potent.

matt's avatar

READ THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE REGARDING CDS PPM when using sealed glass jars and lids versus non-sealed lids to produce the CDS. Your PPM will vary from 25 PPM to 100 PPM depending on the container used to make the CDS. Read this or you’ll get a big unwanted dose like I did…

This above video method produces verified 2 Hour Ready To Drink CDS at 25 PPM. Test strip in the video shows this. HOWEVER, if you use a glass mason jar with a freezing lid that SEALS, you will get 100 PPM, not 25 PPM, using the exact same 25% CD and 4% HCL...

You’ll notice in the 2 Hour Ready To Drink CDS video in this substack that a plastic beverage sipper bottle with a quick release straw tip for sipping is used to make 25 PPM CDS. I believe this jar leaks some gas during the CDS production process while in the fridge, probably through the quick release sipper tip but I obviously can’t test that sipper jar, however, a leak will reduce the PPM strength if gas is in fact leaking out. I say this because I obtain 100 PPM using a GLASS quart size Ball Mason Jar with a Ball plastic sealing Lid, sold for sealing and freezing and does not leak.

In this glass mason jar I added 700 milliliters of reverse osmosis water at room temp (NOTE: Mil’s and CC’s are equivalent volumes). I then used a plastic bottle cap to combine 12 drops of 25% CD with 24 drops of 4% HCL, just like the video. I placed the cap into the mason jar just like the video and sealed the lid and put it in the fridge for 2-3 hours each time I made a batch. I'm getting 100 PPM, consistently! That’s a large hourly dose versus 25 PPM.

To test the accuracy of the 0-500 PPM testing strips, I made MMS1 using 3 drops 25% CD and 3 drops 4% HCL and waited 30 seconds, then added 100CC of room temp reverse osmosis water. I dipped the strip into the 100 CC’s of solution for 2 seconds, did not shake off the excess liquid and waited 10 seconds. I get 25 PPM, consistently. So, the strips are accurate considering this PPM experiment is expected to show 25 PPM.

My Conclusion: My glass container and sealing lid are the only differences to this video’s method. Instead of using a partially sealing sipper cup, I’m using a 32 ounce quality Ball Mason Jar and Ball Plastic Sealing Freezer lid, in excellent brand new condition. I believe I am NOT leaking ANY gas once sealed and the plastic sipper bottle IS leaking gas, lowering the PPM considerably. This is all the data I have to go on at this point. I would like the substack creator to recreate the experiment and respond please.

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My Experience of 6 doses of 100 PPM yesterday:

My first day of the 21 day Protocol, which I’m doing “Protocol C” (which is the same as Protocol 1000, if using MMS1 solution, they each are to provide close to 25 PPM, 8 times per day, each hour). The first dose I drank yesterday morning was of CDS at 100 PPM, I did not have my test strips yet but trusted the recipe as obviously this poster of this substack is very credible in this community to say the least, IMO. I felt it was so much stronger than the 3 drop activated MMS1 but I’d never tasted 25 PPM CDS so I had no way of knowing for sure. My stomach was a little upset and it burned my throat a little, not horrible, but enough to notice it and want a lot of water to wash it down. An hour later when it was time for my second dose, I tried the MMS1 at 3 drops instead, since I was familiar with it and knew it was easier to tolerate. I did MMS1 for 2 doses total, then went back to CDS and poured my 100 CC serving into the cup BUT diluted it with about 8 ounces of water so it would be easier to drink. I repeated this the rest of the day. I had a headache quite bad, was a little dizzy and my head felt like it was pressurized like a balloon, it was almost hard to think, if I had to be at work I couldn’t have done my job. I was cloudy mentally. I figured it was detoxing symptoms but was laying down for most of the time until the 8th dose was over and I could eat. Once I ate and had a cup of tea (I’m fasting 8 hours a day while on the protocol and not drinking coffee which I otherwise drink a whole POT of coffee a day, so I attributed my splitting headache to that as well) and immediately felt a lot better. No other side effects other than I dreaded the thought of doing 20 more miserable days like that with no energy and a splitting, aching, swelling head. Today I drank 8 doses of 100 PPM diluted in water and had almost NO side effects at all, I had a little headache in the early afternoon around my sixth dose without eating which I attributed to caffeine withdrawals. I gotta say that my head feels clearer, I seem to think clearer and recall things clearer. Like my brain was polished. I’ve felt clearer for a few days now. I ramped up my beginner dose the 4th and 5th days to doing 2 then 3 drops each day, since I didn’t feel any side effects at all during the entire Beginner protocol and was really excited to get started on the main 3 drop protocol 8 times a day. I could tell my head was getting clearer and I had more physical drive and energy and no procrastination toward getting things done. My girlfriend said my breath has NO odor and neither does my body. I have to agree that my mouth feels squeaky clean and gums are quite pink now and I also believe my teeth have gotten a little whiter!?! Probably the 100 PPM, LOL. My motivation and energy level has been greatly elevated until yesterday once beginning the 100 PPM doses by mistake due to no testing strips. But after I ate and the CDS was out of my body I felt better again, same with today. Just thought I’d share this experience of my accidental heroic (over)dose. I’ve used Lugol’s Iodine for years and have detoxed with it over time, so I probably didn’t have a bad detox experience even though I took 100 PPM doses right out the gate for 2 days, else who knows what may have happened. Don’t assume you can take 100 PPM and have the same results. I only could do it because I laid on the couch for the last 2 days, work would have been a real problem, a physical job would have probably been impossible, especially yesterday. Tomorrow I plan to do 25 PPM doses and expect I’ll feel great again all day.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Thank you for your input about your experience making the daily bottle of CDS. I will add a notation because that is definitely something that needs to be considered. Regretfully, I say I had not considered it, but I do appreciate your feedback.

But you experienced was a Herxheimer reaction. Too quick of a detox, which led to some side effects.

Be Concerned's avatar

Your humility & honestly are refreshing. :)

Chris's avatar

Not good at mixing etc What products online best? I could handle adding DMSO I imagine just don't want to attempt the whole make procedures,just want premade to max possible ,whats 2 or 3 products and sites youd rec thnx

Chris's avatar

LIST OF MAIN COMMERCIAL SUPPLIERS OF DIOXIDE IS A GIFT FROM GOODNESS/GOD!!! WHY THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

Elaine's avatar

I get 100 ppm using the daily method, too. 25 ppm is a little too much for me at the moment. So, I’m starting pretty small.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Always better to start with a lower concentration than a higher concentration.

matt's avatar

Hi Curious! As a reminder of something I feel is very important to note on this page (right above your 2 Hour CDS video, in a conspicuous place somewhere ABOVE where the user clicks to watch the video) is a note to inform them of the varying PPM they may achieve while following your 2 Hour quick CDS recipe and the importance of test strips to verify results.

If you recall, about a month ago I wrote and said I achieved 100 PPM consistently while following your exact recipe which produces 25 PPM for you in your video but produces 100 PPM for me, and others. Elaine commented above that she too achieved 100 PPM following your recipe and my friend in another state who is doing CDS daily now also gets 100 PPM, not 25. I gave my friend a glass mason jar and plastic sealing lid, like I use. I don't know what Elaine uses? I remember you used a plastic sipping cup with straw attachment which may leak some of the gas (as a guess), thus giving the lower 25 PPM, versus my 3 examples each yielding 100 PPM. I mention all this because as you may recall, I consumed 100 PPM for 8 straight doses for 2 days in a row, until my test strips came as it seemed so easy to follow the simple directions in your video, I didn't think I really needed the strips at the time. I know now they are needed because I like to make more concentrated solutions for other things now, like mouthwash or as a bathroom cleaning solution in a spray bottle. My thought is someone who is trying to help themselves cure a disease could get discouraged by the harsh 100 PPM taste or its effects thinking it's only 25 PPM so it's really worth noting and also worth noting the importance of getting test strips since there are SAO many uses of it.

I'm a little over 30 days into using it now, I completed my initial 21 day protocol (8x day at 25 PPM) and have relief from joint pain as well as relief from brain fog which I had my entire life and would complain about my entire life, LOL. Not anymore. My outlook on life is better too. Thank you for your important role in my journey discovering CDS, your documentaries and videos and substack are what initially started my research into this fascinating molecule and all its uses and protocols. :)!!

Curious Outlier's avatar

Hi Matt,

Thank you for the reminder!

Kelly Holland's avatar

I wish my teeth felt like yours did after the cds but the hcl really makes my teeth feel worse. The mms drops using citric acid make my teeth feel squeaky clean but I wanted to try the cds prior to giving it to my friend who was sick and is now well due to the cds. Ive read other people complain of the same sensitivity to their teeth with the cds prepared with 4%hcl.

Curious Outlier's avatar

If you use CDS, this will resolve that problem. There is no HCL or residual reactant products in it. Only pure Chlorine Dioxide gas saturated in water.

Kelly Holland's avatar

How much should I dilute it for mouth wash?

Curious Outlier's avatar

If you go to the link, provided below and scroll down to just above the bottom of the article you'll find protocol J. That is the protocol that is used for oral health and mouth rinsing.

https://open.substack.com/pub/curioushumanproductions/p/eliminate-oral-infections-and-restore

Cosmic Honk's avatar

Can you let the water come back to room temperature before drinking, or does it have to be consumed cold?

Curious Outlier's avatar

It does not have to be consumed cold, but the water will retain the chlorine dioxide much better if cold.

Caryn Bittker's avatar

Is anyone familiar with the best protocol for Lyme disease and co infections? I need to do “low and slow” as my body is very weak..

thank you!!!

Be Concerned's avatar

Wow, great info! I'd seen the top video several times, but the bottom video for a day's worth was so helpful!!!

Is it okay to take CDS every day, for extended periods? Or would it cause too much oxidative stress, as one opinion I read said?

Thank you so much!!

Curious Outlier's avatar

For short periods of time, it's OK if you're fighting an illness but for chronic use think of it like high intensity exercise. Probably two or three times per week at most.

Be Concerned's avatar

Wonderful -- thanks so much!!

Be Concerned's avatar

I should've been more specific -- what about just once a day? Not throughout the day.

Curious Outlier's avatar

For health It's better to do something like 8 takes in a day. This can be varied. For instance, you could do one take every 15 minutes for two hours or you can do one take every hour for 8 hours. For health purposes, I personally do once or twice per week one take every 15 minutes for two hours. This gives good mitochondrial stimulation. Kind of like a high intensity workout causes enough stress to make you stronger, but not enough stress to injure or damage you.

If you just took one take in a day, then it would probably be like doing 20 push-ups or walking for 10 minutes. Hope that makes sense as a comparison.

Be Concerned's avatar

That makes total sense, & is about how I've been exercising...which of course is not effective, lol. Thank you SO much!!

Daniel's avatar

Many thanks. This is so important.

Laura's avatar

Regarding the second video and the easy-to-make solution in two hours:

1. Can you drink that solution all at once, or is it recommended to space it out over a period of 4 to 6 hours?

2. Also, he mentions 30 PPM. What protocol would that fall under?

3. Is his solution something that can be used every day indefinitely, or would that be part of a 21 day protocol?

For context, I tried the MMS1, and it was very difficult for my schedule to mix the droppers every hour for eight hours. The At Home quick CDS solution shared in the second video seems very doable so I’m hoping this is something I can incorporate easily into my routine. The issue I am trying to solve for is finger joint and wrist joint pain / inflammation

Curious Outlier's avatar

1. It should not be consumed all at once because it will be neutralized rapidly by the body. When it is consumed, it spaced over an a period of time like for, six, or eight hours.

2. Protocol C

3. It would be used for a 21 day protocol and then after that maybe once or twice per week in a maintenance protocol. I personally don't think that Chlorine Dioxide should be taking every day in a maintenance protocol. I think that two or three times per week is more reasonable.

If it were me, I would just use protocols as guides and then adapt it to what will work for you.

Laura's avatar

Thank you, That is very helpful.

Would it be reasonable to consume that entire water bottle in one day spaced six to eight hours apart (or work up to consuming the entire bottle)?

Also, if I cannot do weekends during the 21 day period (only week days), will the protocol still be effective?

Curious Outlier's avatar

If it were me, I would use what is called the starting procedure, which I have discussed in a previous post here: and is referred to as protocol S (sensitive) https://open.substack.com/pub/curioushumanproductions/p/cds-protocols-to-cure-illness-and

Laura's avatar

Sounds great, will do. Thanks so much!