Not in normal healthy folks. I will be doing a frequently ask questions in the next article on this subject. I will be covering that question more in detail. Peripheral vascular disease a x hypercoagulability disorders an are the biggest problem.
Update on question. Since your question, I have read through many studies and I have not found any evidence that people with health conditions like post, stroke and post heart attack have negative effects from RIC. On the contrary, they significantly benefit from RIC
I have used sitting on the floor with knees bent and feet under buttocks method for post MI and pre PTCA for total occlusions. This was also very effective.
Interesting post. I have been using Kaatsu bfr bands for a couple of years now. See https://kaatsu.com/ for more information. Thank you for all you’ve done!!!
PS: The web address has loads of testimonials, the history of bfr by an early developer, and general information about benefits.
I got my bp cuff, and did 5 cycles this morning. Wow...its a very interesting sensation when you release the pressure after the first 5 minutes of pressure. Its fairly intense pressure I must say, but when you release it you can feel the tingling and heat sensation of blood flow back into the hand.
I'm glad to have something to do so inexpensively at home that may really be of great benefit.
Okay, I didn’t understand what this process is supposed to do?!?! I read the article twice. Am I missing something? It’s supposed to have some kind of benefit, but what exactly? What’s it good for? Sorry, but that part seemed glossed over.
This would not be the same thing or similar to ECPP. there are currently no clinical trials that have evaluated RIC with regard to chronic venous insufficiency.
Amazing! Thanks for all your awesome research. My husband had a stroke in 2023 and I'm wondering if it could help him. He hasn't been able to swallow since then but other than a little left-sided weakness, we are very blessed. I'd still love to see him be able to eat again.
I’ve done through 2 blood pressure cuffs since starting RIC. I’m trying to be very gentle the way I inflate and deflate but I can’t get it right. I’m using the Amazon blood pressure cuff you linked @Curious Outlier … Any thoughts. I don’t want to spend 20 bucks every month or so (although it is worth it)…
I’m also wondering if it’s too loose causing me to over pressurize it. Do you wrap and unwrap it each time? I was previously just sliding it on constantly
If it was me, I would do the RIC protocol before and after surgery. Just make sure you do not use the arm on the side where the mastectomy was perform.
You mention an automatic blood pressure cuff can be used and to keep the pressure at 200 for 5 minutes. My auto machine will not let me keep the pressure on, as it starts releasing pressure immediately. I also can't force it to go up to 200. Any advice?
You could buy a manual cuff, but if you wanted to use your automatic blood pressure cuff, you could push the button, let it pump up to maximum inflation and then clamp the tube when it tries to deflate. Clamp for five minutes and then unclamp for five minutes and then repeat. There are a number of things that I could think of that you could use to clamp the tubing.
As mentioned, not to be recommended for those with PVD - peripheral vascular disease (also known as PAD - peripheral arterial disease). Trouble is, you can have this and not know that you have, which was my situation until my seemingly unrelated symptoms were explained to me.
FYI, some signs might be:
- hair loss on legs-thighs or shins/calf (poor blood supply starves the follicles)
- cold feet and or toes
- finding pain in calf muscles when walking or jogging and that it goes away after a minutes rest, but starts up again on exertion.
If you have these symptoms, consider getting a scan. I found I had heart disease also after doing this.
Great info.....thanks for your efforts!! Question....can this protocol be used if one has severe carpal tunnel pain one side and medium on the other....possibly exacerbated by torn rotator cuff tendons in shoulders....thank you
Thanks for the reply....will possibly give it a go going forward and will report back with result. thanks again..,Your well researched articles and obvious empathy towards a more natural and balanced approach to health and healing is much appreciated..cheers
I have read a significant amount of literature about remote ischemic conditioning, and I have never seen any contraindication involving carpal tunnel syndrome or nerve issues contraindicating its use.
Nice! Something we can do at home that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, nor scary risks (for the majority).
Have there been any reports of blood clots forming from stopping blood flow?
Not in normal healthy folks. I will be doing a frequently ask questions in the next article on this subject. I will be covering that question more in detail. Peripheral vascular disease a x hypercoagulability disorders an are the biggest problem.
Great to know. Do you know of any additional risks for people who have internal hardware from past broken bones etc?
No risks.
Update on question. Since your question, I have read through many studies and I have not found any evidence that people with health conditions like post, stroke and post heart attack have negative effects from RIC. On the contrary, they significantly benefit from RIC
Thank you.
I have used sitting on the floor with knees bent and feet under buttocks method for post MI and pre PTCA for total occlusions. This was also very effective.
Thank you! Been waiting . . . 😀
Interesting post. I have been using Kaatsu bfr bands for a couple of years now. See https://kaatsu.com/ for more information. Thank you for all you’ve done!!!
PS: The web address has loads of testimonials, the history of bfr by an early developer, and general information about benefits.
Wow, never heard of these. Went to the site and that's pretty pricey! Will have to read up on them. Thanks for mentioning this
A simple blood pressure cuff will work for this procedure. About $16 on Amazon.
I see that those cuffs are for use while training. I'm more interested in doing the RIC method. Thanks so much
I got my bp cuff, and did 5 cycles this morning. Wow...its a very interesting sensation when you release the pressure after the first 5 minutes of pressure. Its fairly intense pressure I must say, but when you release it you can feel the tingling and heat sensation of blood flow back into the hand.
I'm glad to have something to do so inexpensively at home that may really be of great benefit.
Thank you.
Okay, I didn’t understand what this process is supposed to do?!?! I read the article twice. Am I missing something? It’s supposed to have some kind of benefit, but what exactly? What’s it good for? Sorry, but that part seemed glossed over.
Read the first article. https://open.substack.com/pub/curioushumanproductions/p/the-no-cost-simple-home-therapy-that
Would using this on the ankles have an added benefit of improving blood flow up the legs among people with poor venous return and even varicose veins?
And is this fundamentally similar to ECPP?
This would not be the same thing or similar to ECPP. there are currently no clinical trials that have evaluated RIC with regard to chronic venous insufficiency.
Amazing! Thanks for all your awesome research. My husband had a stroke in 2023 and I'm wondering if it could help him. He hasn't been able to swallow since then but other than a little left-sided weakness, we are very blessed. I'd still love to see him be able to eat again.
I’ve done through 2 blood pressure cuffs since starting RIC. I’m trying to be very gentle the way I inflate and deflate but I can’t get it right. I’m using the Amazon blood pressure cuff you linked @Curious Outlier … Any thoughts. I don’t want to spend 20 bucks every month or so (although it is worth it)…
I've had the same one and have been using it the entire time every day.
What part of it is failing for you?
I think the balloons. I can hear air passing and it starts losing pressure. I’m clearly doing something wrong
Put in a lure lock. I’ll send you a link.
I’m also wondering if it’s too loose causing me to over pressurize it. Do you wrap and unwrap it each time? I was previously just sliding it on constantly
Get 5 or 10 of these: https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=163940&catid=828
Can I do it before a unilateral mastectomy for bc? How many days before should I start? Thx
You can do it before and If it was me, I would start as soon as possible.
Thank you. So I can do it once a day for a week before surgery. Should I do it also afterwards? Thx
If it was me, I would do the RIC protocol before and after surgery. Just make sure you do not use the arm on the side where the mastectomy was perform.
Why after too? And for how long? Thanks
Remote ischemic conditioning can improve improves recovery times when performed chronically before and after surgery.
Always on the right arm since I'm having the op on the left breast, right? Thanks
You mention an automatic blood pressure cuff can be used and to keep the pressure at 200 for 5 minutes. My auto machine will not let me keep the pressure on, as it starts releasing pressure immediately. I also can't force it to go up to 200. Any advice?
You could buy a manual cuff, but if you wanted to use your automatic blood pressure cuff, you could push the button, let it pump up to maximum inflation and then clamp the tube when it tries to deflate. Clamp for five minutes and then unclamp for five minutes and then repeat. There are a number of things that I could think of that you could use to clamp the tubing.
Hoi, I regularly have heart rhythm problems and don't take blood thinners. Can I still take it?
As mentioned, not to be recommended for those with PVD - peripheral vascular disease (also known as PAD - peripheral arterial disease). Trouble is, you can have this and not know that you have, which was my situation until my seemingly unrelated symptoms were explained to me.
FYI, some signs might be:
- hair loss on legs-thighs or shins/calf (poor blood supply starves the follicles)
- cold feet and or toes
- finding pain in calf muscles when walking or jogging and that it goes away after a minutes rest, but starts up again on exertion.
If you have these symptoms, consider getting a scan. I found I had heart disease also after doing this.
Great info.....thanks for your efforts!! Question....can this protocol be used if one has severe carpal tunnel pain one side and medium on the other....possibly exacerbated by torn rotator cuff tendons in shoulders....thank you
Thanks for the reply....will possibly give it a go going forward and will report back with result. thanks again..,Your well researched articles and obvious empathy towards a more natural and balanced approach to health and healing is much appreciated..cheers
I have read a significant amount of literature about remote ischemic conditioning, and I have never seen any contraindication involving carpal tunnel syndrome or nerve issues contraindicating its use.
When lowering the pressure research says to lower gradually by 2-3mm per second, asking for advice for safety after the 5 mins.