With all that DMSO circulating, when the hospital starts hitting you with anti-thrombotics etc, the amplification effects could be what kills you. There are other agents like niacinamide and aspirin less complicated. Activated MMS1 at least leaves the system quickly and by itself might be useful pre hospital. Zeta aid water possibly useful if zeta collapse was the likely cause.
I am reviewing a protocol developed by Jim Humble in his health recovery guidebook. I'm making no claims and I'm simply stating what he developed and also that I would use it if I started having chest pains. In the article, I have clearly not stated that this is not medical advice and I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I'm simply providing them with information about what Jim Humble MMS health recovery guide book along with my commentary.
In regards to medical misinformation, have you already forgot how the covid jabs were going to prevent illness and prevent transmission? How about the cholesterol/statin drug catastrophe? Measles outbreaks following measles inoculations?
Thanks buddy, do you know if there are any peer-reviewed clinical studies? If there are none what are you yelping about? Nowhere in the article is "proof" of anything being offered, just what others have done. Get a grip.
For those unfortunate(or maybe fortunate) to have no access to the mainstream medical process through lack of funds or distance to facilities, what do you say? Do nothing? Do not keep CDS in your medicine chest?
As has been proven in the past, anecdotes and testimonials have been subsequently tested and proven to be courses of action. Willow bark/aspirin comes to mind.
My husband did this after what was very likely a minor heart attack where he was able to open the blockage in minutes with aspirin. He did the DMSO+MMS protocol as written above, only dropping the doses some after day 3 or 4 due to GI side effects. He also used other things like ozonated glycerin and PEMF that seemed to reduce any post-event symptoms.
It seems that the DMSO kept heart damage to a minimum and so far has no objective signs that he even had a heart attack (he had troponin I tested 2.5 days later and it was near-zero, still waiting on troponin T result to come back, also 2 normal EKGs).
However, he is having a lot of trouble having any subsequent symptoms or issues or dangers after the presumed heart attack to be taken seriously, because as of yet, the medical system has no proof that he had a heart attack -- no elevated troponin, no EKG done during or soon after the blockage, etc. We are having to come up with ways to manage anything that comes up on our own, like if he needs beta-blockers or ACE inhibitors we are having to find OTC versions of these like hibiscus tea, aged garlic extract, or PeptACE. We are giving him curcumin to try to prevent adverse cardiac remodeling. It's also been difficult because we don't get the same condolences and support we would get if he had gone into the medical system and many people seem skeptical of us or uncomfortable.
His choice not to go to traditional emergency care was influenced by the hospitals and ERs where we live, which are some of the worst in the country and where we had been massively failed for a life-threatening issue a year before.
We'll see how things develop. For the first few days staying home to focus on his minute-to-minute biochemical healing seemed good since he clearly kept ischemic damage to a very low level, but as things progress we are getting more worried about potentially having to manage the next few weeks (where he has risks of negative cardiac inflammation, fibrosis, and remodeling) on our own because he didn't enter the medical system from the outset and is on nothing more than aspirin when it comes to post-event medications. It's also possible he could have gone to the ER and had them do nothing or harmful things, and maybe we would have regretted that option, too.
Thank you. I want to try the protocol 1000 for hashimotos and hypothyroidism and peptic ulcer. I have been doing the simple protocol which is 2 liters with inactivated sodium chlorite. I’m up to 3 drops this last week. . I do get a bit of burning or acid feeling at 3 drops by afternoon. This could be the peptic ulcer? Very tired today and seem to be constipated. I’m also thinking this might be those detox reactions. I may drop down to 2 or 1 1/2 drops. . Sleeping great. However, I want to start protocol 1000 on Monday.
If it were me, I would treat the peptic ulcer with a bentonite clay protocol prior to using a MMS Protocol. It basically involves mixing about 2 tablespoons of food grade bentonite clay in half gallon of water and taking 3 ounces two or three times per day of the liquid. Learn more here: WeEatClay.com
It's been found to be very helpful with gastric issues like ulcers.
I did not see what the strength of DMSO that is taken orally. I buy it full 99.999% and dilute to 70% for topical applications. It has been suggested that a much lower strength be used for oral use. For oral, are you using 30%, 50%, 70%? Since dermal use is absorbed quickly, should both be used together with slightly lower oral doses?
I will need to print this one out with extra copies. Meanwhile, I looked at the titles of all last posts and did not see anything specific about preventing heart attacks or reversing heart disease. I have a friend who got the covid shot and had vertigo which has returned and he also now has 85% blockage which seems out of place given his diet. Remembering what happened to Aseem Maholtra’s father after the covid shot.
Have you read any testimonials with this heart attack protocol helping an atrial fibrillation episode? My AF episodes last typically 5 to 6 hours. My heart rate goes up to 156 or higher during these episodes. I feel like sometimes I am having a heart attack.
I think with even longer use of RIC there would be continued improvement. My theory is that this is improving both endothelial function, overall health, and things like a fib burden by increasing the amount of EZ water (structured water) in the body. There are other beneficial biochemicals that are produced. Have you read my articles on RIC?
I have not seen any testimonials for Chlorine Dioxide Helping atrial fibrillation. However, you should look into starting the practice of remote ischemic conditioning (RIC). I have written multiple articles about remote ischemic conditioning. Here's a paper about atrial fibrillation and remote ischemic conditioning. https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ihj/63/6/63_21-516/_pdf/-char/en
I will be writing an article about this subject because I think there are a lot of people suffering from atrial fibrillation, and this study shows that AFIB burden went from around 19% to 9% after 12 weeks of daily RIC
Or you could just try the protocol without the DMSO. If it were me, I would try topical prior to any issues and see if your body can handle it. Does that make sense?
My husband used this protocol for a heart attack last week and seems to have gotten through it with very little heart damage. I wrote up all the details about what he used here: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1cVXgeRjYD/. DMSO and aspirin immediately when the symptoms started were helpful for stabilizing him and restoring blood flow and then the used the protocol as closely as possible to how it's written, plus a lot of other supportive home treatments. He got some conventional medical care when he could fit it in (EKGs and troponin testing) and is scheduled for more diagnostic tests.
The only labs he had done since this were Troponin I, Troponin T, and Creatine Kinase, all at 60 hours after the heart event (no tests prior to that). Urgent care refused to order the labs for him when he went Tuesday, and we didn't realize until Tuesday night that he could order these labs for himself (there are some online companies like Ulta labs that offer these tests). All of these tests came back with no signs of heart cell death. If troponin levels had ever risen, they still should have been high at that point. Typically the levels would be elevated above normal for several days and his were extremely low at 60 hours (like not even borderline).
Not being elevated could have a few explanations:
-Not a heart attack/ischemia/just something else (we don't think this is likely based on reasons below)
-False negative --unlikely to happen in 2 separate tests (Troponin I and Troponin T, both were very low, also his labs correspond to the way his heart seems normal in subsequent EKGs and he feels normal a week later)
-Even though his heart cells experienced ischemia at a level that normally would have led to an infarction and elevated troponin, the DMSO, MMS, ozonated glycerin, and other treatments protected them such that very little cell death/infarction/troponin release happened. (we think this is the most likely explanation)
What makes us think that the initial ischemia was bad enough that cell death/myocardial infarction typically would have happened:
-He is not a dramatic person or hypochondriac but says that his felt sense of his body was that he was not even going to survive an ambulance trip to the hospital if something wasn't done for him, he didn't expect to survive unless something we did in the next few minutes at home helped him
-He took two doses of DMSO and after the first dose stood up to walk downstairs to get me (I gave him the second dose plus aspirin once he got me) and says he felt and heard substantial squirting in his chest, perhaps a clot being released form the DMSO? Something substantial enough to cause a squirting feeling
-He said his heart was not functioning normally and describes it like it was beating a few times and then stopping and then repeating that, irregular beating
-He had substantial chest/heart discomfort in the first 3 days after the heart event and especially the first 12h after the heart event that he described as his heart feeling sore like an overworked muscle. It was not consistent with additional ischemia/clots/lack of blood flow but more like ROS and oxidative stress happening in the aftermath of a few minutes of lack of blood flow during the heart event. He was also on a lot of DMSO, 81mg/day of aspirin, and other things that would have made additional clots/ischemia at that time unlikely. He found that ozonated glycerin, CoQ10 and was good for relieving this discomfort/soreness and I encouraged him to have it and whatever else helped to try to keep the pain down. I remembered from treating other injuries such as inner ear injuries I've had from noise or medications that ozonides/ozone have often been beneficial in the healing stage after a major stressor to keep the ROS and oxidative stress lower. It seemed like his heart did have some oxidative stress that he was having to attend to every 15 mins or so with the DMSO and other things. I think this might have helped troponin not to rise in the first place, maybe kept his cells alive.
-Starting around 3-4 days after the heart event, while the soreness above had mostly gotten better, he started having a new issue of what seemed like mild heart failure or decreased heart function, trouble breathing especially when lying down, trouble sleeping from being jolted up as his heart was under-functioning as he tried to go to sleep. This would be around the time that fibrosis and possibly lowered heart function from scarring might start if he'd had heart muscle injuries. He was able to reverse it and stop it using lots of panax ginseng (which can reverse and prevent heart fibrosis), curcumin, some other antifibrotic things for the heart, plus being really good with getting enough sleep, taking an Epsom salt bath before sleep to encourage sleep and adequate magnesium. (This was one point where I started to get the most afraid, that even if he'd survived everything up until then he might be starting to have heart failure from scarring due to not being on the ACE inhibitors a hospital normally would have put him on. If he'd had a willing PCP, like maybe a naturopathic doctor who could understand the concept of having a heart attack but using enough DMSO that troponin never became elevated, perhaps he could have gotten advice from that doctor on maybe getting ACE inhibitors prescribed to lessen the workload of the heart and help it heal without scarring. We had to look into OTC ACE inhibitors for him like PeptACE, which we have not but he never took, and Kyolic aged garlic which he did start taking. he is trying to start seeing a new naturopathic/regenerative medicine PCP next week so that in the future he'd have a medical professional available in situations where the mainstream medical system couldn't see something but he still might need help.)
-He had enough heart discomfort and heart function concerns above to motivate him to continue the DMSO+MMS protocol nearly as written even though it gave him horrible GI symptoms. He actually broke our toilet seat from sitting on it so much having so much diarrhea. If it had just been a panic attack with no ischemia to his heart, I doubt he would have been motivated to take this much DMSO and MMS this religiously for so long. It actually seemed to be helping his heart though and he didn't want to have long-term heart damage, so he was motivated to do it. It seems to have paid off because he seems nearly normal again a week after the heart event, says he can barely tell anything happened to his heart, and he's been able to start gradual exercise even with weights/mace again (he enjoys weight lifting).
So in summary I do think he had enough of a blockage/ischemia that it typically might have resulted in death and/or a fairly substantial heart infarction without the DMSO, MMS, aspirin and other home therapies like ozonated glycerin, PEMF, capsaicin. We both have taken it very seriously and are grateful he is still alive and grateful we had this information about DMSO, MMS, and also aspirin and the other things he used. It gave him much better and more rapid first aid than any ambulance could have provided and then far more options for what to do next rather than having only 911/ER to rely on. We are pretty advanced in our use of home care and I have had Lyme disease for almost 20 years and lots of experience with self-treatment and that was part of our decision on how to handle things. I realize in retrospect he could have gotten an EKG from urgent care earlier if he'd wanted simply by telling them he was not having chest pain at the time but had had chest pain earlier (they will not see if you if you are having current chest pain). He could have ordered any labs he wanted for himself online (including troponin) and had them drawn anytime Quest or LabCorp was open, earlier than we did if we had known it was an option.
I know it's difficult to speak openly about alternatives to the standard hospital response to chest pain but I appreciate you posting about it, this can be lifesaving information. Even if someone intends to use 911 and the ER when they have a heart attack, who's to say they will even survive long enough for paramedics to arrive or get through the experience without substantial heart and/or brain damage? We will always keep DMSO, MMS, and aspirin around now.
oh in case you are wondering if I've used CD for Lyme disease, I have actually used it based on your beginner's guide and share this information with lots of other Lyme patients. I find it very helpful for multiple tick-borne infections including Babesiosis, Bartonellosis, and Lyme, although it hasn't been a full cure for me and I did have some side effects requiring me to drop the dose after a while. Around 16 drops a day ended up being an ideal long-term dose for me to maximize benefits and reduce risks and side effects.
it's interesting to realize that the way the conventional medical system treats heart events seems to be to allow ischemic damage to heart muscle to get bad enough that a lot of troponin is released and then use that troponin as a way to diagnose the degree of heart attack/STEMI/NSTEMI/Acute Coronary Syndrome.
There are some practical reasons for this (wanting to make sure heart damage is actually the cause of the symptoms and it's not something else), but it's kind of a shame as a patient if your valuable heart tissue, which is extremely hard to repair or regenerate, is being sacrificed as a diagnostic tool.
There are nonprescription therapies that are known to reduce heart damage, like DMSO, magnesium, ginseng, possibly ozonated glycerin or ozone therapy, but these are not prioritized in emergency care and indeed reducing ischemic damage during the first few days after a heart event doesn't appear to be a high priority in the conventional medical system, from what I've seen in my research.
conventional emergency care has some tools for dealing with serious blockages and preventing things from getting re-blocked (antiplatelet therapy, angioplasty) and they'll often give ACE inhibitors which have beneficial effects on avoiding negative cardiac remodeling in the weeks following the heart event, but in my assessment researching it for the past week, they are pretty weak when it comes to reducing ischemic damage to heart tissue which is a major driver of long-term harm and disability after heart attacks. Reducing ischemic damage isn't particularly profitable or good from a business perspective for the medical system or hospitals -- it involves non-patented therapies given orally or by IV, it's not a procedure that can be billed a lot for, there's not a lot of clinical research on some of these things because the money isn't there for it, and it's also just difficult for hospitals to innovate when it could involve liability.
It might be ideal to be educated in advance on what therapies might be offered in an emergency heart situation and also their potential interactions with any OTC therapies (e.g., high-dose biotin can impact troponin lab results, DMSO can increase drug effects) to get some of the benefits of the conventional medical system while avoiding some of the worst harms and while maintaining your autonomy and ability to choose what you want for yourself (one of the principles of medical ethics). There is a lot you get faced with in a very short amount of time (minutes, hours, days) and if you haven't researched it beforehand, it can be hard to have informed consent or protect effectively yourself from the small % of interventions that might be harmful while enjoying those that are beneficial.
Many of the emergency cardiac procedures offered at the ER are not necessarily beneficial, however, or are only really indicated in certain situations (see writings on Robert Yoho MD's substack and books for more details on this). Even some of the drugs typically prescribed after heart attacks are not necessarily more beneficial than harmful, according to more recent RCTs and analysis.
I think it's a good approach to consider almost any potential therapy or diagnostic test (conventional, alternative, even homeopathic) but then to really evaluate it for the ratio of benefits to harms and in what situations it could be more beneficial or harmful and also to have at least a working awareness of as many treatments/tests as possible, to be able to be an informed consumer and take the good without getting severely harmed by the bad. Watching videos by Dr. Vinay Prasad has been helpful for cultivating this lens of analysis to help me to even think about some of the unforeseen or indirect harms some treatments can have. Just because something is a "treatment" or marketed as being intended to reduce disease doesn't mean it will be beneficial to your health. Just because a protocol is the "standard of care" doesn't mean it's the most optional thing you could do, given more recent or broader research. However, some conventional medical treatments and protocols really do stand up well in research and practice and are worth using and it's good to be able to use those when necessary and to know which ones they are in order to use them confidently, even if you are skeptical of other aspects of conventional medicine.
Hi all, My 18 year old cat has been drinking the sodium chlorite in water combination for 6 months and her arthritis which stopped her from climbing the stairs has disappeared! She has started to urinate on rugs and bedding and she has done that in the past when anxious about changes in the house such as visitors etc. However, now it is more severe, so I think she may have cystitis or maybe her kidneys are failing. She also has pretty bad cataracts so she bumps into things. Is there a more acute protocol I could try such as activated CD in her water or by syringe? Thanks so much!
If you were me, I would try using DMSO with your cat. DMSO can help with cystitis and it can also possibly help with the kidneys and cataracts. It can be added into the water just as with the sodium chlorite.
I like the idea of sublingual CDS spray.
How to make the spray
1:4 ratio. 1 part CDS 3000 to 4 parts water.
With all that DMSO circulating, when the hospital starts hitting you with anti-thrombotics etc, the amplification effects could be what kills you. There are other agents like niacinamide and aspirin less complicated. Activated MMS1 at least leaves the system quickly and by itself might be useful pre hospital. Zeta aid water possibly useful if zeta collapse was the likely cause.
The DMSO strength is 100%? and can CDS(Cl02) be used the same as MMS1?
Thanks
I see my questions were answered by others here thanks again
I am reviewing a protocol developed by Jim Humble in his health recovery guidebook. I'm making no claims and I'm simply stating what he developed and also that I would use it if I started having chest pains. In the article, I have clearly not stated that this is not medical advice and I'm not telling anyone what they should do. I'm simply providing them with information about what Jim Humble MMS health recovery guide book along with my commentary.
In regards to medical misinformation, have you already forgot how the covid jabs were going to prevent illness and prevent transmission? How about the cholesterol/statin drug catastrophe? Measles outbreaks following measles inoculations?
Stop and think.
Thanks buddy, do you know if there are any peer-reviewed clinical studies? If there are none what are you yelping about? Nowhere in the article is "proof" of anything being offered, just what others have done. Get a grip.
For those unfortunate(or maybe fortunate) to have no access to the mainstream medical process through lack of funds or distance to facilities, what do you say? Do nothing? Do not keep CDS in your medicine chest?
As has been proven in the past, anecdotes and testimonials have been subsequently tested and proven to be courses of action. Willow bark/aspirin comes to mind.
karen, please control your hysteria. There may be children reading this.
Thank you for these valuable suggestions. The sublingual protocol is interesting.
I'm searching (with various attempts) for a method to use chlorine dioxide consistently (with intervals).
It's incredible for treating any type of injury (a severe flu with a fever of 41 Celsius, cured in 24 hours with three doses of the F10 protocol).
But I'm having difficulty with a gentle, consistent supplement.
I agree.
But you have to be lucky enough to live near a great hospital where you can go with confidence that they won't remove your organs without anesthesia.
Except for your heart, of course...
My husband did this after what was very likely a minor heart attack where he was able to open the blockage in minutes with aspirin. He did the DMSO+MMS protocol as written above, only dropping the doses some after day 3 or 4 due to GI side effects. He also used other things like ozonated glycerin and PEMF that seemed to reduce any post-event symptoms.
It seems that the DMSO kept heart damage to a minimum and so far has no objective signs that he even had a heart attack (he had troponin I tested 2.5 days later and it was near-zero, still waiting on troponin T result to come back, also 2 normal EKGs).
However, he is having a lot of trouble having any subsequent symptoms or issues or dangers after the presumed heart attack to be taken seriously, because as of yet, the medical system has no proof that he had a heart attack -- no elevated troponin, no EKG done during or soon after the blockage, etc. We are having to come up with ways to manage anything that comes up on our own, like if he needs beta-blockers or ACE inhibitors we are having to find OTC versions of these like hibiscus tea, aged garlic extract, or PeptACE. We are giving him curcumin to try to prevent adverse cardiac remodeling. It's also been difficult because we don't get the same condolences and support we would get if he had gone into the medical system and many people seem skeptical of us or uncomfortable.
His choice not to go to traditional emergency care was influenced by the hospitals and ERs where we live, which are some of the worst in the country and where we had been massively failed for a life-threatening issue a year before.
We'll see how things develop. For the first few days staying home to focus on his minute-to-minute biochemical healing seemed good since he clearly kept ischemic damage to a very low level, but as things progress we are getting more worried about potentially having to manage the next few weeks (where he has risks of negative cardiac inflammation, fibrosis, and remodeling) on our own because he didn't enter the medical system from the outset and is on nothing more than aspirin when it comes to post-event medications. It's also possible he could have gone to the ER and had them do nothing or harmful things, and maybe we would have regretted that option, too.
CO, would cayenne tincture be a good complement to this protocol?
Absolutely!
Thank you. I want to try the protocol 1000 for hashimotos and hypothyroidism and peptic ulcer. I have been doing the simple protocol which is 2 liters with inactivated sodium chlorite. I’m up to 3 drops this last week. . I do get a bit of burning or acid feeling at 3 drops by afternoon. This could be the peptic ulcer? Very tired today and seem to be constipated. I’m also thinking this might be those detox reactions. I may drop down to 2 or 1 1/2 drops. . Sleeping great. However, I want to start protocol 1000 on Monday.
If it were me, I would treat the peptic ulcer with a bentonite clay protocol prior to using a MMS Protocol. It basically involves mixing about 2 tablespoons of food grade bentonite clay in half gallon of water and taking 3 ounces two or three times per day of the liquid. Learn more here: WeEatClay.com
It's been found to be very helpful with gastric issues like ulcers.
Thank you!! I had not looked yet at the clay part.
I did not see what the strength of DMSO that is taken orally. I buy it full 99.999% and dilute to 70% for topical applications. It has been suggested that a much lower strength be used for oral use. For oral, are you using 30%, 50%, 70%? Since dermal use is absorbed quickly, should both be used together with slightly lower oral doses?
It's 99% pure but then it's diluted in water.
I will need to print this one out with extra copies. Meanwhile, I looked at the titles of all last posts and did not see anything specific about preventing heart attacks or reversing heart disease. I have a friend who got the covid shot and had vertigo which has returned and he also now has 85% blockage which seems out of place given his diet. Remembering what happened to Aseem Maholtra’s father after the covid shot.
Have you read any testimonials with this heart attack protocol helping an atrial fibrillation episode? My AF episodes last typically 5 to 6 hours. My heart rate goes up to 156 or higher during these episodes. I feel like sometimes I am having a heart attack.
I think with even longer use of RIC there would be continued improvement. My theory is that this is improving both endothelial function, overall health, and things like a fib burden by increasing the amount of EZ water (structured water) in the body. There are other beneficial biochemicals that are produced. Have you read my articles on RIC?
I have not seen any testimonials for Chlorine Dioxide Helping atrial fibrillation. However, you should look into starting the practice of remote ischemic conditioning (RIC). I have written multiple articles about remote ischemic conditioning. Here's a paper about atrial fibrillation and remote ischemic conditioning. https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/ihj/63/6/63_21-516/_pdf/-char/en
I will be writing an article about this subject because I think there are a lot of people suffering from atrial fibrillation, and this study shows that AFIB burden went from around 19% to 9% after 12 weeks of daily RIC
I'll be looking up your articles on RIC. Mostly been following your articles and information on MMS and CDS.
Here's an index of all of my articles on remote ischemic conditioning.
https://curioushumanproductions.substack.com/t/remote-ischemic-conditioning
Thank you so much. You saved me some time!
Wonderful! I am looking forward to your article on RIC.
Is this conversion correct? Thank you.
MMS to CDS Conversion
MMS “3 drops” can vary, but the most common working assumption in protocols is:
- 1 activated drop MMS1 ≈ 1 mg available ClO₂
- So 3 drops MMS1 ≈ 3 mg ClO₂ per dose
Protocol 1000 = 3 mg ClO₂ per hour × 8 hours/day = 24 mg ClO₂ per day.
Now convert that into CDS doses.
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Step 1 – Choose a CDS concentration
Most protocols use 0.3% CDS, which is:
- 0.3% w/v = 0.3 g / 100 mL = 300 mg ClO₂ per 100 mL
- = 3 mg ClO₂ per 1 mL CDS
So: 1 mL of 0.3% CDS ≈ 3 mg ClO₂, i.e., equivalent to 3 drops MMS1.
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Step 2 – Equivalent hourly and daily CDS dose
To match MMS Protocol 1000 (3 mg/hour × 8):
- Hourly dose:
- 1 mL of 0.3% CDS (contains ≈ 3 mg ClO₂)
- Dilute that 1 mL in a glass of water and drink it once per hour.
- Daily dose (8 hours):
- Total: 8 mL of 0.3% CDS per day
- This provides ≈ 24 mg ClO₂, same as 3 drops MMS1 × 8.
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Summary CDS schedule equivalent to MMS Protocol 1000
- CDS concentration: 0.3% ClO₂ (≈ 3 mg/mL)
- Per dose (hourly): 1 mL CDS (0.3%) diluted in water
- Frequency: 1 dose every hour for 8 consecutive hours
- Total per day: 8 mL CDS (0.3%), ≈ 24 mg ClO₂ total per day
1 activated drop MMS1 ≈ 6 mg available ClO₂
2 ml of CDS 3000 = 6 mg available ClO₂
what should a person do if taking dmso orally causes them tachycardia? would using it topically be better than nothing?
Or you could just try the protocol without the DMSO. If it were me, I would try topical prior to any issues and see if your body can handle it. Does that make sense?
yes I use it topically often. Even in eyedrop form. I think the problem is my digestive system.
Stick with topical and other applications. It goes systemic.
My husband used this protocol for a heart attack last week and seems to have gotten through it with very little heart damage. I wrote up all the details about what he used here: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1cVXgeRjYD/. DMSO and aspirin immediately when the symptoms started were helpful for stabilizing him and restoring blood flow and then the used the protocol as closely as possible to how it's written, plus a lot of other supportive home treatments. He got some conventional medical care when he could fit it in (EKGs and troponin testing) and is scheduled for more diagnostic tests.
That's great! Thanks for letting me know about that. Did he initially have an elevated troponin? I'll go read that report on Facebook.
The only labs he had done since this were Troponin I, Troponin T, and Creatine Kinase, all at 60 hours after the heart event (no tests prior to that). Urgent care refused to order the labs for him when he went Tuesday, and we didn't realize until Tuesday night that he could order these labs for himself (there are some online companies like Ulta labs that offer these tests). All of these tests came back with no signs of heart cell death. If troponin levels had ever risen, they still should have been high at that point. Typically the levels would be elevated above normal for several days and his were extremely low at 60 hours (like not even borderline).
Not being elevated could have a few explanations:
-Not a heart attack/ischemia/just something else (we don't think this is likely based on reasons below)
-False negative --unlikely to happen in 2 separate tests (Troponin I and Troponin T, both were very low, also his labs correspond to the way his heart seems normal in subsequent EKGs and he feels normal a week later)
-Even though his heart cells experienced ischemia at a level that normally would have led to an infarction and elevated troponin, the DMSO, MMS, ozonated glycerin, and other treatments protected them such that very little cell death/infarction/troponin release happened. (we think this is the most likely explanation)
What makes us think that the initial ischemia was bad enough that cell death/myocardial infarction typically would have happened:
-He is not a dramatic person or hypochondriac but says that his felt sense of his body was that he was not even going to survive an ambulance trip to the hospital if something wasn't done for him, he didn't expect to survive unless something we did in the next few minutes at home helped him
-He took two doses of DMSO and after the first dose stood up to walk downstairs to get me (I gave him the second dose plus aspirin once he got me) and says he felt and heard substantial squirting in his chest, perhaps a clot being released form the DMSO? Something substantial enough to cause a squirting feeling
-He said his heart was not functioning normally and describes it like it was beating a few times and then stopping and then repeating that, irregular beating
-He had substantial chest/heart discomfort in the first 3 days after the heart event and especially the first 12h after the heart event that he described as his heart feeling sore like an overworked muscle. It was not consistent with additional ischemia/clots/lack of blood flow but more like ROS and oxidative stress happening in the aftermath of a few minutes of lack of blood flow during the heart event. He was also on a lot of DMSO, 81mg/day of aspirin, and other things that would have made additional clots/ischemia at that time unlikely. He found that ozonated glycerin, CoQ10 and was good for relieving this discomfort/soreness and I encouraged him to have it and whatever else helped to try to keep the pain down. I remembered from treating other injuries such as inner ear injuries I've had from noise or medications that ozonides/ozone have often been beneficial in the healing stage after a major stressor to keep the ROS and oxidative stress lower. It seemed like his heart did have some oxidative stress that he was having to attend to every 15 mins or so with the DMSO and other things. I think this might have helped troponin not to rise in the first place, maybe kept his cells alive.
-Starting around 3-4 days after the heart event, while the soreness above had mostly gotten better, he started having a new issue of what seemed like mild heart failure or decreased heart function, trouble breathing especially when lying down, trouble sleeping from being jolted up as his heart was under-functioning as he tried to go to sleep. This would be around the time that fibrosis and possibly lowered heart function from scarring might start if he'd had heart muscle injuries. He was able to reverse it and stop it using lots of panax ginseng (which can reverse and prevent heart fibrosis), curcumin, some other antifibrotic things for the heart, plus being really good with getting enough sleep, taking an Epsom salt bath before sleep to encourage sleep and adequate magnesium. (This was one point where I started to get the most afraid, that even if he'd survived everything up until then he might be starting to have heart failure from scarring due to not being on the ACE inhibitors a hospital normally would have put him on. If he'd had a willing PCP, like maybe a naturopathic doctor who could understand the concept of having a heart attack but using enough DMSO that troponin never became elevated, perhaps he could have gotten advice from that doctor on maybe getting ACE inhibitors prescribed to lessen the workload of the heart and help it heal without scarring. We had to look into OTC ACE inhibitors for him like PeptACE, which we have not but he never took, and Kyolic aged garlic which he did start taking. he is trying to start seeing a new naturopathic/regenerative medicine PCP next week so that in the future he'd have a medical professional available in situations where the mainstream medical system couldn't see something but he still might need help.)
-He had enough heart discomfort and heart function concerns above to motivate him to continue the DMSO+MMS protocol nearly as written even though it gave him horrible GI symptoms. He actually broke our toilet seat from sitting on it so much having so much diarrhea. If it had just been a panic attack with no ischemia to his heart, I doubt he would have been motivated to take this much DMSO and MMS this religiously for so long. It actually seemed to be helping his heart though and he didn't want to have long-term heart damage, so he was motivated to do it. It seems to have paid off because he seems nearly normal again a week after the heart event, says he can barely tell anything happened to his heart, and he's been able to start gradual exercise even with weights/mace again (he enjoys weight lifting).
So in summary I do think he had enough of a blockage/ischemia that it typically might have resulted in death and/or a fairly substantial heart infarction without the DMSO, MMS, aspirin and other home therapies like ozonated glycerin, PEMF, capsaicin. We both have taken it very seriously and are grateful he is still alive and grateful we had this information about DMSO, MMS, and also aspirin and the other things he used. It gave him much better and more rapid first aid than any ambulance could have provided and then far more options for what to do next rather than having only 911/ER to rely on. We are pretty advanced in our use of home care and I have had Lyme disease for almost 20 years and lots of experience with self-treatment and that was part of our decision on how to handle things. I realize in retrospect he could have gotten an EKG from urgent care earlier if he'd wanted simply by telling them he was not having chest pain at the time but had had chest pain earlier (they will not see if you if you are having current chest pain). He could have ordered any labs he wanted for himself online (including troponin) and had them drawn anytime Quest or LabCorp was open, earlier than we did if we had known it was an option.
I know it's difficult to speak openly about alternatives to the standard hospital response to chest pain but I appreciate you posting about it, this can be lifesaving information. Even if someone intends to use 911 and the ER when they have a heart attack, who's to say they will even survive long enough for paramedics to arrive or get through the experience without substantial heart and/or brain damage? We will always keep DMSO, MMS, and aspirin around now.
oh in case you are wondering if I've used CD for Lyme disease, I have actually used it based on your beginner's guide and share this information with lots of other Lyme patients. I find it very helpful for multiple tick-borne infections including Babesiosis, Bartonellosis, and Lyme, although it hasn't been a full cure for me and I did have some side effects requiring me to drop the dose after a while. Around 16 drops a day ended up being an ideal long-term dose for me to maximize benefits and reduce risks and side effects.
it's interesting to realize that the way the conventional medical system treats heart events seems to be to allow ischemic damage to heart muscle to get bad enough that a lot of troponin is released and then use that troponin as a way to diagnose the degree of heart attack/STEMI/NSTEMI/Acute Coronary Syndrome.
There are some practical reasons for this (wanting to make sure heart damage is actually the cause of the symptoms and it's not something else), but it's kind of a shame as a patient if your valuable heart tissue, which is extremely hard to repair or regenerate, is being sacrificed as a diagnostic tool.
There are nonprescription therapies that are known to reduce heart damage, like DMSO, magnesium, ginseng, possibly ozonated glycerin or ozone therapy, but these are not prioritized in emergency care and indeed reducing ischemic damage during the first few days after a heart event doesn't appear to be a high priority in the conventional medical system, from what I've seen in my research.
conventional emergency care has some tools for dealing with serious blockages and preventing things from getting re-blocked (antiplatelet therapy, angioplasty) and they'll often give ACE inhibitors which have beneficial effects on avoiding negative cardiac remodeling in the weeks following the heart event, but in my assessment researching it for the past week, they are pretty weak when it comes to reducing ischemic damage to heart tissue which is a major driver of long-term harm and disability after heart attacks. Reducing ischemic damage isn't particularly profitable or good from a business perspective for the medical system or hospitals -- it involves non-patented therapies given orally or by IV, it's not a procedure that can be billed a lot for, there's not a lot of clinical research on some of these things because the money isn't there for it, and it's also just difficult for hospitals to innovate when it could involve liability.
It might be ideal to be educated in advance on what therapies might be offered in an emergency heart situation and also their potential interactions with any OTC therapies (e.g., high-dose biotin can impact troponin lab results, DMSO can increase drug effects) to get some of the benefits of the conventional medical system while avoiding some of the worst harms and while maintaining your autonomy and ability to choose what you want for yourself (one of the principles of medical ethics). There is a lot you get faced with in a very short amount of time (minutes, hours, days) and if you haven't researched it beforehand, it can be hard to have informed consent or protect effectively yourself from the small % of interventions that might be harmful while enjoying those that are beneficial.
Many of the emergency cardiac procedures offered at the ER are not necessarily beneficial, however, or are only really indicated in certain situations (see writings on Robert Yoho MD's substack and books for more details on this). Even some of the drugs typically prescribed after heart attacks are not necessarily more beneficial than harmful, according to more recent RCTs and analysis.
I think it's a good approach to consider almost any potential therapy or diagnostic test (conventional, alternative, even homeopathic) but then to really evaluate it for the ratio of benefits to harms and in what situations it could be more beneficial or harmful and also to have at least a working awareness of as many treatments/tests as possible, to be able to be an informed consumer and take the good without getting severely harmed by the bad. Watching videos by Dr. Vinay Prasad has been helpful for cultivating this lens of analysis to help me to even think about some of the unforeseen or indirect harms some treatments can have. Just because something is a "treatment" or marketed as being intended to reduce disease doesn't mean it will be beneficial to your health. Just because a protocol is the "standard of care" doesn't mean it's the most optional thing you could do, given more recent or broader research. However, some conventional medical treatments and protocols really do stand up well in research and practice and are worth using and it's good to be able to use those when necessary and to know which ones they are in order to use them confidently, even if you are skeptical of other aspects of conventional medicine.
Hi all, My 18 year old cat has been drinking the sodium chlorite in water combination for 6 months and her arthritis which stopped her from climbing the stairs has disappeared! She has started to urinate on rugs and bedding and she has done that in the past when anxious about changes in the house such as visitors etc. However, now it is more severe, so I think she may have cystitis or maybe her kidneys are failing. She also has pretty bad cataracts so she bumps into things. Is there a more acute protocol I could try such as activated CD in her water or by syringe? Thanks so much!
If you were me, I would try using DMSO with your cat. DMSO can help with cystitis and it can also possibly help with the kidneys and cataracts. It can be added into the water just as with the sodium chlorite.
Thank you! I love that I can add it into the water with the sodium chlorite. I will add a few drops today.