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Charles's avatar

I enjoyed the TUA tutorial videos since the discovery of The Curious Outlier in the plandemic. His tutorials saved me and my familiar. I trained two others to make the solutions, eliminated gout, and numerous viral infections, pneumonia etc.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Hi Charles,

That's great! I would love for you to share those testimonials here, and I can write them up for my testimonial record. Thanks so much. Blessings to you in Jesus' name. 🙏🏻 and Thank you for what you are doing to help people by training others with this vital information.

shannan seelig's avatar

Would you recommend this spray for dogs with ear infections ? I'm also going to start my dog on the pet water dish protocol or just do the drops in his water

shannan seelig's avatar

My dog had a really bad infection with black, wet discharge. I got the newest antibiotic ear medication from the vet and the infection returned a month later, just as awful.

I started one drop of MMS to 30 ml (1 ounce) filtered water. Would soak a cotton ball and put the ball in his ear and massage. I did this two times a day for two weeks then one a day for two weeks the ----I tried this dosage -- I then contacted this person If you need consultation with CDS Protocols for

Veterinary Therapy, kindly reach out to Fran

Lucas @Abellaire

He has more effective communication in written english.-- they told me it won't work for yeast infection --- however the medication for my dogs ear infection doesn't seem to work either - would be interested in the borax and how to use it

Curious Outlier's avatar

Typical concentration for what you were trying to treat is 10 activated drops in 30 mL. I think your MMS1 solution was way too weak.

shannan seelig's avatar

Good to know - I will try that next time

shannan seelig's avatar

I tried the drops for two weeks in my dogs ear and didn't have any luck - took him to the vet and he had a yeast ear infection- got medicated drops I also started the water maintenance protocol for him

Curious Outlier's avatar

Can you tell me what dilution strength you were using in your dogs ears? Also, a borax solution will work well for yeast infections.

Mark Olinger's avatar

Can I use the residual NaClO2 & HCl reagent mixture (after making CDS “the easy way” per Dr. Kalcker’s video demo) for human use?

That is, can I use the left-over CDS-generator reactant mix, similar to how I would mix up a batch of MMS for oral ingestion?

But first, diluting that mix down to 30 ppm ClO2 (by test strip) like the concentration as used in Protocol C.

If oral ingestion is not recommended (due to traces of unreacted components?) can it be used as topical treatment?

Dr. Kalcker mentions using it as a surface disinfectant, on kitchen cutting boards, etc.

But not for direct human use.

Thank you for your advice on making best use of the unused reagents remaining in the “shot glass” compartment of the sealed chamber, after the ClO2 gas above has reached equilibrium with the water.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Making it the way you made it is totally fine, but you just won't need to dilute it.

Mark Olinger's avatar

Thanks for confirming that creating larger volumes of more dilute CDS in this way is an appropriate use of the basic lab techniques & the underlying chemistry demonstrated by Dr. Kalcker.

Mark Olinger's avatar

Thanks, I just made my 2nd batch of 1 gallon of CDS.

But this time, I used only 15 drops each of NaClO2 and HCl (instead of 20 drops each for my first batch).

And I let it sit in the dark at room temp for only 12 hours (not 24 hours, like the 1st batch.)

And it still came out at between 25-50 ppm on LaMott test strips.

And the residual reagent mix tested at between 50-100 ppm.

So, I then also tried making a 2nd 1-gallon batch of CDS from that residual reagent mix.

But (even after 24 hours) the resulting batch’s concentration was essentially 0 ppm (with no taste or smell of ClO2, either).

However, even though this 15-drop mix was not able to produce a 2nd gallon of CDS, there may be room to cut the reagent volumes down even further (say, to 10 drops each), and still produce 1 gallon of CDS at around 30 ppm.

Just FYI, in trying to extract as much CDS 30 (for Protocol C) as efficiently as possible, in terms of cost & time.

Thanks for allowing me to post & share for comment.

Curious Outlier's avatar

Are you seeing any yellow color change in the liquid that is produced? How are you doing 1 gallon of CDS? The shot glass method using 5 mL of each is for 250 mL of distilled water. Or are you using the method that is making the rain to drink solution that is around 30 ppm?

Mark Olinger's avatar

Thanks for your questions Re this technique.

I am not familiar with the rain method that you reference above.

Yes, the gallon of RO water turns a light yellow-green color.

Consistent with the shade of CDS 3000, but much fainter.

It looks & smells & tastes just like the 100x diluted form of CDS (down to 30 ppm) that I use in Protocol C.

It is also full of small bubbles clinging to the sides of the container, if that’s an indication of anything, perhaps ClO2 gas?

Previously, I had been purchasing CDS 3000 at $30+ per 4.2 oz from WaterPure and diluting 10 cc of it into a liter of RO water.

The gallon-sized glass “jug” with the silicone seal is just an oversized version of the 500 cc hermetically-sealed receptacle that Dr. Kalcker uses in his demonstration video.

Instead of using a shot-glass to hold the reagents, I had thought of using a tall & slender bud vase or similar heavy glass receptacle to keep its opening above the water-level.

And to limit the airspace above the water-level, to facilitate maximal absorption of ClO2 gas into the water, as recommended by Dr. Kalcker.

But I recently saw another CDS video showing the reagents being dropped & mixed in a plastic bottle-cap, that was then floated on top of the water in the chamber, instead of using a shot-glass at the bottom.

So, I found some small, flattened flask-shaped glass Christmas ornaments online.

Like a hollow hockey-puck with a neck and an open end.

I just drop the reagents into this flask to mix them, and then float it on top of the water-level, just under the lid of the gallon jug.

It takes a bit of finessing to get the water level correct in order not to “sink” the reagent flask when the lid is lowered and closed.

But it is fairly simple & works well for me, by leaving only about 1/2” of air-space above the water-level.

As such, the entire system is made of lead-free glass and silicone (no metals or rubber or plastic to leach).

The same techniques would probably work well for creating more concentrated CDS solutions, if more volume of reagents and less volume of water were used in a gallon-sized (or smaller?) jar.

Likely, the chemistry could be worked out ahead of time, for at least an estimate of yield?

I would be glad to share links (& pics?) for this “system,” if there is interest and an easy way to attach a photo.

I hope that this is helpful (& safe) and encourages innovation & wider use of CDS.

Mark Olinger's avatar

As a further modification of the above technique, I am now mixing the reagents in a small glass condiment bowl.

And then floating that bowl on top of the RO water in the gallon jug.

This bowl is easier to maneuver than the hollow glass Christmas ornament.

I also bumped up the number of drops of each reagent from 15 to 16 per batch.

This yields a CDS concentration of consistently between 25 and 50 ppm.

And the residual reagent MMS concentration is 50-100 ppm.

So, there does not seem to be much wastage.

Thanks for maintaining this forum to share ideas.

Curious Outlier's avatar

If you were me, I would use it for household purposes as mentioned, and not for directly consuming. There will be a concentrated amount of reactant byproduct and this may increase your chances of having negative side effects.

Mark Olinger's avatar

Thanks much for your prompt & cautious response. I had assumed that the residuals might be more toxic than the pure ClO2 gas per Dr. Kalcker’s technique or even a freshly-generated batch of MMS per Jim Humble’s original work. As a side-note, Dr. Kalcker’s video does not specify exactly how much water is used to make his CDS. He mentions that the container is 500 cc. And there is a footnote comment that he used 250-300 cc of water in that container. But the exact volume of water used (and therefore, CDS produced) would be helpful to know. He is precise with measuring the 5 cc of each reagent used. And he uses a specific dilutional process to test & calculate the resulting concentration. But the missing factor (IMO) is a precise measurement of how much water he adds (from that green drinking-water bottle) into the sealed container. The reason I am interested in these details is that I have just produced a gallon of CDS in 24 hours, from 1 cc of each of the reagents. Resulting in a concentration somewhere between 25 to 50 ppm. Which is in the correct range for his Protocol C (I.e., 1% of CDS 3000). And the residual reagent mix tested out at around 100 ppm. But making the gallon of drinkable CDS costs only pennies a day, depending on actual dose to be consumed. Thanks again for providing this great forum & supporting this great community.

Sherri's avatar

Thanks, I have read this multiple times, I have done copious notes, and can't find anything. I need to go back on prednisone for a while to get my ducks in a row. I was starting to do the chlorine dioxide drinking protocol, but my cognition has dropped so much because I've gone off the prednisone, that it is what it is. I have no problem making CDS, it's just the profound decline cognition for follow through and correct recipes and dosing. I may give the MMS protocol I heard about in a podcast I was listening to which was sharing information about the one tela group first. I used to specialize in cognitive testing as well as programming for my patients. Today is the first day I've been brought to tears, just camp put the ducks in a row and smell is even more impaired🤗 it's all good❤️